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 Milton
 
 

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 19:53 Reply to topicReply with quote
Hi

I just bought Logitech Formula EX wheel and enjoy it a lot. I know it's in the medium quality range. I got some good times with the wheel already but the problem is I am getting like 5 seconds better times with Logitech Gamepad. The driving feels better with wheel but I am not going so fast. Does anyone have any tips how to improve wheel racing and how to setup Logitech Profiler to get the best results with the Formula EX wheel.

Thanks.
 

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 Giorgio262
 
 

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 04:47 Reply to topicReply with quote
I have the same wheel model. Previously I used an old short stick joystick (a 2 buttons Quickshot I bought in 1994 no less Wink ) to steer and the keyboard to control accelerator, brakes and handbrake, with gearbox set in automatic mode. It took quite a lot to find a decent setting for the wheel and to get accustomed with it. At the moment I can't plug in the wheel and write down my settings in the profiler and in RBR so I'll edit the post later. By now I can only tell you that for me it was a metter of understand that I didn't have to try to use the wheel like I used the joystick and keyboard combo. Basically I had to learn to drive again in RBR. At first I get an average of 10 seconds worse timings with the new controller. Then with new settings and practice I started to get some new records. The final step was to try using the manual gearbox which I just could't handle with the joy-keyboard combo, and after some practice I realized it was a whole new experience, a much better one.
All in all I found since manual gearbox offers better traction on loose surfaces (the auto being too eager to shift to higher gears ) driving the manual box feels easier and more rewarding. So, while I don't know what kind of gearbox you selected to play with the pad I hope you're using the manula for your wheel.
I also suggest you concentrate on getting practice and forget the times for a while. For in my case paying too much attention to the stage times lead to frustration too many times.

First edit:
I suggest you install the latest profiler software from Logitech since older versions, like the one I found in the box in december 2006, were far from perfect and in some games, RBR included, generated a horrible effect when turning left. Basically it went like this: you're accelerating and then turn left and keep the wheel that side and you feel like the feedback gives some sudden "bumps" just like the clogs in the mechanism missed a tooth. The higher the settings for the force feedback the bigger the "bumps", and believe me, it feels horrible (I also experienced this bug with GP4 and NFS Underground2). Suffice to say that I know of a person in another forum who believed the wheel was damaged so he took it back to the shop and bought something else instead.

2nd edit:
as promised my settings for the Formula EX wheel are as follows. Of course I have the tabs and menus in italian so I'll roughly translate them or just refer to their position in each window, you should have the same arrangement so you shouldn't have any problem in understandig what controls I'm referring to. In control panel game peripherals with wheel connected select the settings page:

I have combined pedals checkbox unchecked (so that they use different axis. In RBR this implies that there is better control over accelerator and brakes for example when using both pedals at the same time as Richard suggests in the Rally School).

I have force feedback sliders set like this:
first slider (global effects) at 100%
second and third sliders to 0%
Wheel centering spring checkbox unchecked.

Then In RBR you can set the force feedback intensity to your liking. Personally I don't like too much feedback since it can actually cause accidents sometimes, so I chose to set it at 7 red bars, and autocenter set to on (actually this should be the default setting, isn't it?).

Steering filter axis set as follows:
curvature: 7 red bars
curvature2: 0 bars
maximum fade: 7,5 bars
saturation: 15,5 bars

I have to say that I moved PC_InputFilter.ini away from RBR folder as suggested somewhere in the tweaks section of this forum.

Anyway, the wheel works fine with no lag or anything like that.
 

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