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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 08:06 Reply to topicReply with quote
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Demo is now available for the PC edition of DIRT: Colin McRae Off Road, offering the chance to get down and dirty with the latest installment in the rally racing series. The demos are accompanied by word that the game's release date is set as June 19, 2007. Word is: "The DIRT demos take gamers on three mud-splattered race events. The Xbox 360 demo events include Crossover, Hill Climb and C.O.R.R. (Championship Off-Road Racing). The PC demo swaps mountains for multiplayer and enables up to 100 players to go head-to-head in a race for the best time over a point-to-point rally stage." Demo is an 833.89 MB download,

link : https://bhms.racesimcentral.net/download/15450

 

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 14:13 Reply to topicReply with quote
Honestly, I was expecting more, so Im pretty dissapointed. I played the demo on my PC and just didnt like it. Ohh and that blur..... please use it wisely! Howerver, I like the creative side of Codemasters, for example the menu system, I think its damn nice.
 

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 16:18 Reply to topicReply with quote
hehe The most improvment I see is menu system? hehe Great. As I expected.. Well done again Codelamers
 

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 18:03 Reply to topicReply with quote
The demo sucks. I have only read one post at another site where the guy actually liked it. The Demo was unplayable for me. I have a highend system with a G25 racing wheel and steering lag was intolerable. The demo was deleted with in just a few minutes even after trying all the available settings in the controls section was tested. To think Codemasters was going to get it right this time, is only a pipe dream. Be warned, the game will have Starforce protection. See this page to see what you get with starforce system crippling copy protection.

https://www.glop.org/starforce/

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 12:00 Reply to topicReply with quote
It's the ultimate proof of where Codies go wrong.

I've played both the 360 and PC demo. The 360 demo was quite average, but bearable. The PC version was unplayably bad.

If you've got the short-throw of a analogue stick it's almost alright. If you've got a wheel it's desperately undriveable.

So. Simulation? No. Good port to the PC? No. Arcade game designed for a console? Could be! (cue Hong Kong Phooey music).
 

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 20:12 Reply to topicReply with quote
I really have to disagree guys! Just throw away your sim-snobism and prejudice! I'm a Richard Burns Rally and Rally Trophy fan, but I have to tell you: this release of the series is totally different. No, it's still not a hardcore sim, but remember: Codmasters really doesn't want to make this game a simulation. But: when I drive with helmet view (it's perfect), I have the feeling, that I'm driving a car. Previous titles of the series doesn't had any physics, now it's quite good (especially the physics of the buggies). Very forgiving, still realistic (So the gameplay is a bit arcade-ish, but the sense of driving is really fair).
The one and only rally stage the demo presents is a blast! It's thight and is a great challenge!
Paco454: I also have problems with my wheel setups. I have to reassign one of the axeses every time. Yes, it's annoying, but I bet, the final version won't have this bug.
Galthar: did you ever tried it? It's simply a lie, that the only improvement is the menu (witch is really great).
gram: that blur is the best i've ever seen in a video game! It's not overdone, not like a special effect - very natural.
The dark sides of the demo:
It's really a monster! You have to own a nuclear powerstation to run it smoothly in high resolution. I had to set the resolution to 800x600. All graphic settings are set to high, and it's run smoothly. The resolution isn't that bad, becouse the graphics are still damn good!
The co-driver's voice is very bad, very arcade-ish. I hate the comments that he says.
After all: don't be a snob! Try it out, and forget all you know before about Colin McRae Rally!
 

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 20:55 Reply to topicReply with quote
if there are (still - 2007) problems with the wheel an you dont have any car setup access at all keeps you optimistic about this racing title i have to assume you are smoking something illegal.

"it's just a demo" is not enough, the installed demo takes like 1+ gb on your harddisk twice as the full cmr2 and offers nothing compared with that, dont fool yourself, codemasters has a totally different conception about the british sense of humour.
 

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 23:46 Reply to topicReply with quote
I didn't say "it's just a demo", 'couse i think it's a good demo. It has bugs (just as RBR had and still has some), and you're right, a wheel bug nowadays very... hm... let me say crap. But it's so big bug that it will be solved.
About cmr2... I like it a lot, and think it was the best CMR title before. But don't say it's the most realistic, becouse it's really far from realistic. Dirt offers nothing compared to cmr2? Come on! Cmr2 is like a heroistic myth! Is it half the size of Dirt Demo? It's true. Don't be an old-style guy! There are even more titles that comes on two DVDs. That's what you pay. Do you have a 386Mhz system with 64MB RAM and 16 MB VGA? I bet you've not. Cmr2 was a big and expensive game in its time. Those times are gone. Game developing and hardware developing walks hand-in-hand. We have to deal with it.
Anyway, I think Dirt really brings new things into the CMR series. If I want to drive a real rally sim in the future, I will drive RBR (but it's getting bored, isn't it), if I want to have a quick fun, I will looking for Colin McRae Dirt (and not something illegal that i could smoke Very Happy ) This is my point of view, mate.
 

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 23:38 Reply to topicReply with quote
i thought cmr was about rally driving, arcade or not, cmr 2 had that, dirt on the other hand only shows massive gfx, and there ends.

there is no freakin' fun under those blurry 15 FPS (3.4ghz/7600gtx/1gb) ...
is like watching porn lol, is dirty, it cames in slideshow and from time to time looks sexy, but is soooo dead beat.
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 07:52 Reply to topicReply with quote
You're right in some perspective, but I really don't think that the only new is "massive gfx". The physics are pretty good. Once I had a crash with a tree in the demo. That crash was awsome! The car behaved almost better than in RBR. And I'm not talking about the damage modell (wich is great), but talking about the physics of the car and the environment.
Have you tried to lower the resolution? Try it out, becouse you can't judge the game from a slideshow. I know, it isn't normal, to play a game in 800x600 today...
And about rally... That's why its title is Colin McRae Dirt and not Colin McRae Rally Dirt.
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 08:50 Reply to topicReply with quote
if you name something "colin mcrae" and you expect me to not think at rally you are pretty off topic, comeon man, cm = ford focus crash&burn, this is his nickname Smile

i can run GTR or Race with full grid and high gfx settings with no problem... my poor pc seems to have the power to render 30 cars going wheel to wheel at 260 on Monza in sim mode but it barely gives minimum fps on arcade mode on that SS in Dirt...

i can run nfscarbon racewars at highs settings, again like 10 going at 300+ km/h with a shitload of reflections and particle sistems, yet i can barely get the fps i need to keep that buggy on road in Dirt. why so?

who needs motion blur and bloom anyway? those two are the worst choice in a racing game some developer can make, fortunately the game is unfriendly enough to spare alot of people of getting sick of them
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 14:08 Reply to topicReply with quote
OK, I give up! One thing's for sure: I'm still looking forward to the final version.
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 14:20 Reply to topicReply with quote
that's totally different story, me waiting for the full release as well, but for slightly different reasons, the artists behind Dirt content are definitely worth paying for this game and i'm sure that content will be properly used.
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 19:39 Reply to topicReply with quote
I tried the demo too. It sux. Really. It is harder to control with wheel than RBR, but not because it is realistic. I can't enjoy it, it's not fun.
 

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 18:01 Reply to topicReply with quote
The steering lag is what gets me. I tried and tried to drive this game last night and after half an hour I finally got used to the lag and was able to drive some fairly decent laps. But come on, it shouldn't have to be like this Codemasters. Please don't release the final version like this!
 

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