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2/10, 5/10, 8/10... this I call variety in scores. Looks like people see in RBR what they want or are able to see. Hopefully the PC demo comes ASAP so that people can judge for themselves instead of being confused by reviews.
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szszp,
Lol good one. Nice catch.
The fact that gamereactor would give CMR 3 10/10 says it all.
SCI- Dont worry, I'll buy two copies. You deserve the cash.
ColdFever
The 2/10 and 5/10 are from the same site, they changed from 2/10 to 5/10.
I hope someone can translate it for us.
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Mikko
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That 10/10 CMR3 review is written by the same guy who gave RBR 2/10.
If those are his tastes, I certainly am not worrying. Having played lots of (well - not that much  ) CMR3, I can say that I just hate it. The physics are sooo much worse than the arcade racer, CMR2. When I say worse, I mean unrealistic, dumbed down. And plenty of driving aids to boot (how about auto cornering in hairpins - at least I am pretty sure that was the case).
*shudders*. Looks like the guy is determined to treat all rally games just like an easy arcade game, and gets mad and frustrated when failing. This doesn't mean RBR is good though, only that his attitude is not quite proper to test out a sim-title.
Imagine putting someone like that at testing Microsoft Flight Simulator, or IL2 Sturmovik.
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Richard Burns Rally
By Steen Margquard
"Punctured and <something> rally experience devastates Steens day. SCi's gasoline monster cannot compete with Colin McRae."
"..It can be said with a few words. Richard Burns Rally is everything Colin McRae Rally is - only worse in every single category."
"Richard Burns Rally contains all the things you can expect from a rally-title, but the quality is <crap>."
"The game puts incredibly much on the line by talking about being an extremely realistic rally simulator, but even people without a drivers license will quickly realize that no car behaves like the rallycars in this title."
"The physics, and the steering, works simply terribly bad and one is reminded about using the controller with cooking gloves on. And then we add a mediocre graphical side and suffering sound side, and you get a rally experience that should be forbidden."
"The only reason to buy the game would be to see what really makes the other rally games so good, as RBR demonstrates how you can screw it up" (or something to that effect)
"It is therefore advisable to buy WRC 3 or/and Colin McRae Rally 4"
Graphics: 6
Sound: 5
Gameplay: 5
Longitivity: 5
5/10
Plus: Nothing
Minus: Terrible steering and physics, spiced with a lukewarm impression. |
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whats with all these crappy reviews lately 
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ROFLMAO.
The sad thing is that many people read this stuff and takes note of it. 
I hope SCi/Warthog will be able to reach the income demands for this game and that it isn't set too high, so that there is a chance for a sequel... 
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Cotas
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Thank you Mikko for the translation!
Now its clear to see that this reviewer has 'different' preference to Rally games, and I wouldn't say this is a good and accurate review for a simulation based game.
Again, thanks Mikko for the translation !
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I'm always suspicious when reviewers say that there are no strong or weak points (plus or minuses). I think it smells of some pretty strong bias. Just for example, the camera works in the replays are by far the most amazing in any rally game to date (to my knowledge); dynamic weather, randomized stages, spectator help, can hit spectators, animals, helicopter rescues, the huuge tuning ability for the car, sweeping the field, running into others who retired in the stage... yet this is not mentioned.
In fact, this review is like that Petter Engelin's review - it contains only a paragraph or so about game details (and then, only extremely vague, without detail, refusing to specify) and several paragraph how horrible it is.
In many ways, just like propaganda. Check it out - here is a link that teaches the basics of propaganda and how it is used - https://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/hill1.html a highly interesting read.
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Why don't we just forget this stupi "review"... i could only give a huge punch
to that mothercracker who gives 10/10 for cmr3... and 5/10 for rbr... this is total nonsense... |
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Actually he gave CMR 10/10, and RBR 2/10. That was Petter Engelin, the swedish gamereactor reviewer.
The Danish reviewer (other person) wrote an identical review (basically) but gave it a not as 100% obvious negative bias, 5/10.
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Not to take away from what you wrote Mikko, but theres a little more info in the review that I thought we could share.
"Punctured and muddy rally experience ruins Steens day. SCI`s petrol monster can not compete with Colin McRae.
We often see that less known developers are trying to get a piece of the cake, by trying to release games in popular titles, where there are one or two titles dominating the market from before! Naturally this is the way for new inventions and evolution, but the outcome is not always the best- as this is a perfect example of.
It can be said with very few words: RBR is everything that CMR is, but worse in many areas. It was therefore with a little bit of fear that we received this rally title, which comes from the developer of "shabby " titles like Rolling and The Italian Job, which were games that proved that SCi don`t have the wackiest tricks in the cookie jar, when it comes to titles with wheels involved... but it`s unfair to judge before it`s tried out, so we gladly put the disc in the console, and very quickly we got our fears confirmed- even with retroactive force.
RBR obviously contains some of the most known things you can expect of a rally title, but the quality has gotten a shaky ride where there are obvious signs of loose wheeles and rusty spark plugs. The game stresses that it`s the perfect rally simulator, but people without a driving licence will very quickly understand that no car handles like the ones in this rally game.
The physics and the steering, is pretty much crap, and you`re left with a feeling that you were sat using the contoller with big oven mits on. And the top of the iceberg is that we can also say that the graphics were medium at best, and a suffering/terrible sound. The result is that this is a rally experience no one should go through. The only reason for buying this game is to see why the good rally titles are the best, and that RBR is a perfect example of how to mess with the recipe.
We therefore recommend that you either stick with or buy WRC3 and/ or CMR 4."
Well, well, what can we say?!? When someone starts with "SCI`s petrol monster can not compete with Colin McRae." you have to be suspicious straight away! This is a guy who obviously doesnt have his drivers licence and/or doesnt understand what rallying is about and therefore should stick with playing with his scaletrix. Unfortunatly, as what has been mentioned before, people read these reviews and take note...... Although I for one will not be listening to this guy again! Buy CMR4 or WRC3.... He must be like 12 years old! This is my opinion and not that of anyone else. |
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It is unfortunate some people may read this crap and actually believe it. As somebody mentioned, Gamesreactor is a free zine so many people might get the wrong idea about RBR. Steen Marquard is a dumbass for comparing a simulation to an arcade game. These games are not even in the same league.
Anyway, if you think 5/10 is bad look what he gave NFS Hot Pursuit II --> https://www.gamereactor.net/texter/?id=40185&x=9&y=4
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| szszp wrote: |
It is unfortunate some people may read this crap and actually believe it. As somebody mentioned, Gamesreactor is a free zine so many people might get the wrong idea about RBR. Steen Marquard is a dumbass for comparing a simulation to an arcade game. These games are not even in the same league.
Anyway, if you think 5/10 is bad look what he gave NFS Hot Pursuit II --> https://www.gamereactor.net/texter/?id=40185&x=9&y=4
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HA HA!!!! Funny as hell. So we can all relax knowing that this guy is totally into arcades, obviously! Dear Sir, ITS A SIMULATOR!!!!!! How can a guy get it so wrong? Who lets these fools review them?
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Hmm. I should give these people a crash course in physics.
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